On Irish AIDS Day 2021 some staff were reflecting on the privilege of working with those living with and affected by HIV. The current stage of Covid is incredibly challenging as the impact of trauma emerges, yet there is some light at the end of the tunnel. After 40+ years of HIV, as we hope for the end, those we support have an incredible amount to teach the world right now on grief, hope, stigma, love, shame and joy. Listening and loving are at the heart of our work and are the way out of any pandemic.